Your own theories are based on emotions and not on facts!
پوسٹڈ بايئ یوزر کو ڈیلیٹ کر دیا گیا ہے انرر سوئٹرزلینڈ فورم
Hello Daniel
My last post was referring to your last post that was adressed to me and not to Andy... ; )
Coming back to your favourite subject: the miscegenation in Switzerland. Now your new estimation is 30 to 40 years eventhough I told you that it started centuries ago. Again; you should really study the history books first before coming out with your own theories about Switzerland that are unfortunately often wrong.
You say that you "just thought that the miscegenation coincided - which normally does - with the reactionary outburst of nationalism that started some 10 to 20 years ago here in Switzerland". First of all I think that the expression "reactionary outburst of nationalism" is inappropriate because it does not reflect the mayority of the Swiss population and your number is again incorrect. I guess you have never heard about the Schwarzenbach-Initiative. Well, check it out and you will find out that what you call "outburst of nationalism" has existed before your time frame. And it has not only existed in the last century but in many centuries before, and not only in Switzerland but in most of Central Europe.
Again, migration and miscegenation to/in Switzerland has existed for centuries and here are just a few examples as your historical background only seems to reach back to the 1990ies.
-> In the late 16th and 17th century French Huguenots came in large numbers to Switzerland. They brought the textile and watch industry to Switzerland.
-> In the 1850es people from Italy started to come to Switzerland in large numbers. A lot of them worked in the Gotthard Tunnel construction in the late 19th century, in the 20th century a lot of Italians worked in construction of houses and roads.
-> In 1956 thousands of Hungarian refugees came to Switzerland and started a new life here.
-> In the Sixties thousands of Tibetians refugees arrived in the Sixties (by the way approved by the Swiss government eventhough China was protesting!). There are aproximately 2'500 Tibetians living in Switzerland. This is the largest Tibetian community outside Asia!
-> In the Eighties 35'000 Tamils from Sri Lanka came to Switzerland.
Or have a guess how many foreigners were living in Basel in 1900, 110 years ago? 40%!!!
Well, as you can imagine a lot of those people married Swiss people and formed part of the miscegenation that started long, long time ago...
There is however a important difference between the miscegenation or rather the immigration of the last 10 to 20 years and the ones I mention above and this might be a partial explanation for some recent racist reactions in Switzerland.
In the past immigrants came to Switzerland to find work or a new home. They were peaceful and thankful to find a new place for living and tried to live in harmony with each other and the Swiss.
But we have a new situation now in Switzerland and Europe. For the last decades we had a lot of foreigners/refugees that have been brought to Switzerland by organisations that earn money with the transportation of people. A lot of those foreigners do not really come with the intention to adapt in any way to the Swiss way of life, they do not even think of working, because they know that the Swiss law and system will supply them with an apartment, food or money. This service is paid by the Swiss tax payer and as the number of profiteers has significally increased in the last years you get more and more nationalist and racist reactions and acts in Switzerland and the rest of Europe.
دوسرے جوابات
- Making friends in Switzerland
- ...
- Switzerland
- ...
- Switzerland
- Its really hard to make friends
- You want to get to know Swiss? Learn German!
- Friends in der Schweiz
- Making friends in Switzerland
- Hi
- Du musst lerne Deutsch
- Your husband
- looking for new friends
- poor agostino! :)
- Expat's destiny
- about getting to know the swiss...
- hi
- friends in switzerland
- hey Viktoria
- Oh dear
- Agostino. Questo è relativo.
- Friends in Geneva
- Why is it so hard to make friends in Switzerland??
- Sorry Steven.
- thanks juan
- EN la sierra de Guadarrama.
- Boring Switzerland
- guadarrama la conozco
- Find a place where you can learn German / French - in your case
- Sobre mi zona.
- Friends in Switzerland
- exactly the same
- Switzerland a land of racism, descrimination and stupidity
- About the Swiss
- About the Swiss
- lonesome
- It's most difficult in Zurich
- Bitte echli MITdenke!!!
- @ Benno de Vries
- Viktoria
- Just flicking through these posts
- how is berlin
- zurich
- Berlin is great!
- Thanks for your posts Steven and Dino
- About Switzerland
- Conformity
- It takes time
- I must be very lucky
- How long are you staying?
- now im really angry how swiss are and behave
- you are right jim
- Maybe Zurich is different to Bern?
- hola celia zurich es diferente hi celia zurich is diferent
- celia have you tried to meet people out of your laboral area
- People from work and not from work
- zuri is very diferent,but people are also closed
- Welcome to hell - welcome to Switzerland?
- nothing to add to claudios comment
- When in Switzerland...
- Switzerland is no Mexico
- Move to another country!
- What's the matter
- To Andy
- Come on...
- What?
- Miscegenation
- alright
- Your own theories are based on emotions and not on facts!
- reply
- if you arnt swiss, you arnt good enough
- i need help.
- To Mark
- canuck
- @ mark
- canuck
- Sorry
- The Swiss and their friends
- hi
- Why is it so hard to make friends in Switzerland??
- to Faiz
- Why is it so hard to make friends in Switzerland??
- @ Faiz
- Why is it so hard to make friends in Switzerland??
- @ Faiz
- Why is it so hard to make friends in Switzerland??
- ouch
- Schwiitzertüütsch
- @ Roger and Daniel
- Why is it so hard to make friends in Switzerland??
- Swiss Friends
- @ Canuck
- Can't realy agree
- You're right
- the "kantönligeist"
- @ roger
- german speaker
- Can't agree
- thanks
- no problem
- thanks
- becose they dont want new people or diferent people
- attn. Brian Taylor
- Dear Brian Taylor
- Swiss people are....
- fellow canuck
- hoi!
- :
- good to hear your story
- new in switzerland!!
- hi
- hi back
- the Swiss are very racist . They hate everybody including themeselves
- Yeah..whatever
- Swiss people are boring
- About Switzerland
- @ Jim
- Na, can't do other than disagree
- about switzerland
- Goodevening Maria and Everyone,
- About Switzerland
- Life in Switzerland
- @ alexander, roger and just in general
- Fear of foreigners is one of the reasons...
- A piece of news from World Radio Switzerland
- Switzerland & Racism
- why ???
- To Roger B with respect
- back with respect
- Difficult to integrate with this kind of campains
- I understand but it's a free democracy
- Free democracy promoting racist and xenophobic campains aginst foreigners
- half the country?
- The authorities have to be blamed for their inaction
- of course part of the problem are the authorities
- @ Roger
- a question for roger
- Swiss racism is to blame for everything
- racism in Switzerland
- Mr. Jackson be careful...
- Switzerland explained
- STOP IT
- Mr. Switzerland you be very careful
- Stop it
- To Jim Jakson
- hi
- bout carefulnes
- Foreigners more than ever considered to be criminals!!!
- Na, if you think it's the way you describe, you have not understood the initiative
- This is an ugly racist and xenophobic agenda
- We pet a lost dog, so lets send a smile to the stranger...
- Racisim big time in Switzerland as usual..
- racism in Switzerland
- Here is a good one foe you again from a "foreign" friend in Switzearland
- let's stop about this racisme shit?!
- n
- Check what Human rights web site says about racism in Switzerland
- get the point guys
- hi
- thanks
- racism in Switzerland
- I understand you
- hi dear flo regina
- sorry to hear that
- Even for a swiss guy it's not easy to make friends in Switzerland
- re
- re
- the same
- Yes, it is VERY hard to find friends in this country!!!
- to live in Switzerland
- LOOKING FOR GOLD DEALERS URGENT
- Why is it so hard to make friends in Switzerland??
- Dear Karim
- ok
- I need help
- my opinion
- Seriously?
- Open your heart
- :-O
- MSC STUDENT INQUIRY
- Its really easy to make friends
- Oh yeah?
- great, li lu
- Blaming Swiss
- Riiiight
- Hi
- hello
- Dear Nikko Z.
- O yes!
- Really?
- What to do with a problem named Mariaaaaaa?
- Lmao
- Hello
- Time
- Agrees
- Thanks
- Friends and other things
- PS, forgot to say one last thing...
- Looking for friends
- Reply
- Tonight ????
- Swiss people are haters
- @sonia
- Yeah, right.
- Seldom had such a good laugh...
- I am Spanish
- Not totally hard to find a friends...
- Y ppl not serious in friendhsip from switzerland
- do not agree
- not easy for us
- sei
- still existing the comunity college in Zurich
- The best thing about Switzerland is to leave it!!!
- oh
- For one who said "The best thing about Switzerland is to leave it!"
- Hie
- I don't understand....
- reply to Davor and others
- Its Right!!!
- you can't have one without the other?????
- sidenote
- so stupid jokes
- Get a grip.
- Seriously??
- swiss
- Friends
- Answers?
- Sorry
- you may try a course to make Swiss friends
- racism in Switzerland a concern?
- person who's good ,nice and simple, can find good friends everywhere...
- Swiss direct democracy leads the world
- Whaaat???
- Big time Racism in Switzerland
- Jim, are you OCD?
- .
- Switzerland vs US
- .
- .
- .
- .
- Friendliness Requirement
- agirlin..
- no obligation to be friendly
- Clin, are you a white south african?
- I think that ...
- Are Swiss racist?
- Very true...
- about CH
- MAN I SPENT MY LAST CENT TO BUY YOU A DRINK
- Friends
- Always hard to make new friends
- hmm
- not multicultural
- It is hard everywhere
- I agree but....!
- hey...
- We can meet
- Since 1 year
- Hi
- This one goes to canuck s
- Suche nette Leute weiblich und männlich um zusammen was zu unternehmen
- From the outside
- Why is it so hard to make friends in Switzerland??
- Why is it so hard to make friends in Switzerland?? (40)
- From the outside
- If this thread is so popular since 2008...
- Well they aren't that unfriendly
- Its just another peace of land
- "hosting in Egyptian Home" welcome to hosting in our Egyptian Home in Egypt ..f
- Swiss
- Making friends in switzerland
- Frendship
- Frendship
- Reply
- Hmmmmmm
- Traditional and Conservative
- Making friends in Switzerland